People of Jammu are not against Kashmiris or Muslims or Kashmiriyat, but against the politics of imperialism practiced by Muftis, Abdullahs and the ilk. The land transfer just gave an opportunity to them to come out and express the pent up anger.
DOES JAMMU want only the land transferred to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board (SASB) and if this happens, will the matter settle down? Apparantly, this does not seem to be the case.
The Amarnath land transfer is just a symptom of the malaise afflicting the bodypolitic of the state, with all the major stakeholders failing to satisfy the aspirations of Dogras, Kashmiris and Ladakhis, not to speak of the other ethnic and linguistic groups like Gujjars and Paharis. Right now, what Jammu wants is end to the Kashmiri imperialism, which has been perfected and practiced by the Kashmiri leadership foisted upon the state by union of India.
People of Jammu want an end to the domination of Kashmiris in every sphere of their life. Be it politics, economy, society and culture, the writ of the Kashmir runs in the state and the centre. The land transfer just gave an opportunity to the people of Jammu to come out and express the pent up anger. However, the people of Jammu are not communal and majority of the people value secularism to the utmost level. People of Jammu are not against the Kashmiris or Muslims or Kashmiriyat, but they are dead against the politics of imperialism practiced by Muftis, Abdullahs and the ilk. Barring few incidences that are regrettable, no violence has been perpetrated against our Muslim brothers in Jammu and Kashmir as well. If Kashmiris can protest against the Indian yoke, the Jammu people have every right to do so. Similarly, the people of Jammu have every right to fight against the yoke put on them by few people and politicians across the Jawahar tunnel. Jammu, mind you is not against Muslims and Kashmiris, it is against the ideology that upholds the supremacy of everything that is from Kashmir valley. It is pertinent to mention that during the 14 years of emergency, it is Jammu and its people that have provided the buffer against separatist and anti-India ideology and consequent violence engulfing the state. Not to be forgotten is the manner, in which Jammuites shared space with the Kashmiri Pandit brothers, who were forced to migrate from Kashmir Valley. Another question, which rises here is why were they forced to leave their land, home and hearths. Instead of painting the agitation at Jammu as communal and led by Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), some soul searching is needed to be done by the leaders of mainstream political parties in Kashmir, Jammu and India. The manner, in which the entire Jammu populace has come to the streets and held the fort against state administration, makes it very clear that it is a peoples movement.
.Now its very high time when India need to change its view on kashmir.. we have lost several soldiers and resources to keep them happy and feel like indian except few exceptions which are unfortunate one. Now time has come when me should make them realize that this is only their home and they have to follow the rules of this country. Stop being soft state we all indians should raise our voice , there is no longer need for any special act for kashmiris because only kasmiris are suffering because of this. Politicians will not let them mix with other societies, and they will remain feel unacceptable from other part of the country. Lets people invest and live there. Its Impotent, otherwise give kashmir to pakistan or it'll happen itself in coming days.
.It is very unfortunate that the jammuites were victimised by Kashmiri leadership from the last 61 years.It is pure frustation of Nationalist Jammuities againt pro-pakistani leadership of Kashmir,I would like to see my Jammu as progressive as any other place in India but it would be impossible as long as we keep on listening to Kashmiris.
Jai Jammu/Jai Bharat
.Jammuwala...
What you have written over here got vindicated earlier today, when DEVIL IN MUFTI, came out openly on TV, strongly supporting an ALTERNATE route to Muzafarabad.
This proves that the Mosi's are riled up and they are burning from inside at this un compromising stand taken by Hindus.
They cant fathom a stand from Hindus at all and their ego is burnt up.
If the Government of India has any self respect, then they must blockade the valley completely.
Roast the traitors on slow fire for a change.
Jammuites dont compromise, do stand up for your rights, ENTIRE INDIA IS WITH YOU on this issue.
Jai Hind!
.The Union Home Minister sneaked into Jammu from the back gate of the airport, with a martial law like situation on the streets. For weeks, the region had been simmering and smouldering - not once did it occur to that man to come and figure out things for himself. The effete PM is gloating in his new found nuclear status, and coudn't care less for the people of Jammu. The PM at large - the Big Bong - is here today and gone tomorrow so he can go back and mouth platitudes to please the Muftis, Abdullahs and the Geelanis.
.It is wrong to suggest that gujjars are being targetted.
As a matter of fact Jammu muslims particulary Gujjars and Bakarwals are the worst sufferers because of discrimination against Jammu.
Their share is much less than their population.
Badrawah and Doda, predominantly muslim areas are the most neglected parts of J&K. If properly developed this area will attract more tourists than the valley. It has been the policy of the authorities that be to keep this area backward.
Right said suresh you are correct in assessing the situation and even if there were some stray incidents the people of Jammu regret that. Gujjars are our borthers, hindus and muslims and they are equally fighting for the cause of jammu
.Jammu people are secular they are not against gujjars or muslims. But some stray incidents might have happened and the leadership is now ensuiring that there is no hooliganism
As already said, the agitators are not targetting any specific community. May be some miscreants are making the best of this opportunity for themselves. but that doesnt mean that they are the meer targets of actual protest.
.Of corse these are the actual Jammuties in this war which include Dogras and Kashmiris Pandits and each an every person who is a HINDU. I personally know the individuals, who are Kashmiris Muslims are truly support the cause.
I strongly believe that this complete agitation has nothing to do with any caste / community. Its a fight for the right of EQUALITY and against INJUSTICE. Being far away from my Family, Friends and Jammu, I regret each and every day that Y M NOT THERE IN THE PROTEST in support of this cause. However this all could have been done in a more peaceful way and its all BJP,VHP,RSS who fueld the agitation in which has now turned into COMMUNAL VIOLENCE, which was not intended to be.
Friends, before all this take the face of kinda CIVIL WAR, please spread this message that this agitation is only and only againt the IGNORANCE of the HINDUS of jammu and kashmir.
.If only one representative can creat havoc in Jammu and Kashmir just imagine what 20 will do. If you think that door of pakistan is open to you, dont be naive just look at what is happening there. It is a failed state and sectarianism is killing people along with terrorism. If that is your door then your option are open. Sepratist blackmail will not yield anything
.Dear Kashmiri please have common sense brother. The Jammu intefada is being fought and led by ordinary people of Jammu, who are known as Dogras. The fight is not against muslims or kashmiris, but only against Kashmiri hegemony and domination.
No one from India has come to fight for the people of Jammu. Jammu people are strong enough to fight for their cause.
Brother dont live in a paradise and please realize that people Jammu want to end this kashmiri imperialism, not kashmiris
.I have strong belief that common people from jammu are aginst whatever is happening there. They are not the types what is shown on the TV screens, its people ferried from other parts of India which create ruckus on the streets of Jammu and make common people suffer. Its the BJP (Terriost parrty) which is ocastrating these riots in lenght and breath of Jammu.
today morning i saw many local jammuities on NDTV irrespective of their religion protesting on roadfor the right of jammu people. My college teacher spoke few lines . Its very clear that people are hell bent to fight back against the vested interest of few so called leaders. I congratulate each and every person of jammu for the courage &wish them luck to come out victorious.jai bave wali mata
.Hello,
Seems good!
but the fact of the matter remains, Who is a nationalist YOU or US. J&k was never a part of India before 1947 and mind you jammunities the groups who are shouting *&@#%#@$ nationalism have one representative in the assembly. Rest if u think jammu can sustain with Kashmir. You can snap ties 'cause if somebody closes one door there are hundreds doors open for him
Dear Fakeeh, what are u doing in this country where your talent is just being wested, Please go to Pakistan, Afganishtan, Bangladesh or any other fanatic country there your talent must be utilized.
You sound like you have come out straight from the Madarssa system. Go back their and knock the head of the head mullah and ask for refund. Else start a holy war on him.
What history book have you read??? What about Mughals? Ashoka? During many periods in India history J&K has been part of India. In any case, India as we know today came into existence after the British. The identity of the subcontinent is more of a Hindu identity and J&K has been a key part of it. Look at the Amarnath Yatra, Mansarovar, etc. These existed before Islam was introduced. But you will not understand, you are too communal and selfish. Your religion commands you to be communal, so you are probably proud of it.
.Jammuwala i appreciate your emotion that is mine also, Every lover of humanity and fighter of Humanity that is Hinduism also with you people. .
I would like to salute the unity of Jammu.
.people of jammu are nationalist who have always stood against the anti national forces right from 1947 till this day!
but these kasmiri leaders are doing everything to put the nation on tenterhooks!
they are funding the militancy right from the start.
they are giving provoking statements that are only adding spark to the already wosening situation. these antinational kashmiri leaders need to be punished first.
govt of India should stop the policy of appeasing the criminals and anti nationals elements.
.Even if Kasmir is seperated as a sovereign state(if Pak will ever let it be that) the problems will not go away.Islamic terrorism will just have more of a free hand and place to foment anti India trouble from. The agendas of global terrorism just find a very convenient resonance witht he local Kashmrir Muslims struggle for a seperate homeland.This is dangerous for the mainland.
If Kashmir is separated from India, either as independent or part of Pakistan, people of Jammu and Ladekh will be expeled by Muslims. We just have to see over west. In Pakistan prior to independence more than 30% of population was non-Muslim. Now one has to send search party to find Hindu. Kuldip Nayyar, manmohan singh, Khuswant Singh etc., who preach tolerance to hindus, themselves did not wait to test tolerance of Muslims.
.Dear Jammuwala
I cann't agree with you. Show me a single Muslim who has supported the cause. Let us have our own territory and get rid of kashmiri imperialism. Let them take their territory and get another failed state. The slogan is a separate Jammu, Kathua together with half of Udhampur.
.I am a Kashmiri Pundit and yet support cause of Jammu people. They have been suffering without any reason for so long. In gact both Jammu and Leh, which have been extremely peaceful and yet get affected by Kashmir, They must get separate statehood and develop their region.
Hell with mufti's and my own coward kashmiri pundits, who just know talking and do nothing. If they think they are too high class just being Kashmiris then let them be but leave other people alone.
i m from jammu..n reading ur comment i feel had this movement happened 15 yrs back..there would have been no migration... but at least now we can stay united..
.Best solution to the crises is to carve out a separate state from Hindu dominated districts of Jammu, Kathua and half of Udhampur minus its upper reaches of Gool and Gulabgarh. Handover rest to Kashmir. It is more a Hindu-Muislim issue and not a Jammu V/S Kashmir issue. Not a single Muslim of Jammu region worth his salt supported the Amarnath Land agitation and against Kashmiri imperialism. Let they be left to Kashmiri whims.
Dear unknown, lets not talk low and speak of hindus and muslims as seprate entities. It is because of hindus and muslims theory that Pakistan is a failed state.
Why should muslims support an Hindu agitation. Anyways this is a peoples movement for the rights of people of Jammu and lets not hit below the belt.
Relax brother
.it is high time that hindus in j & k unite to fight the impearlistic attitude of kashmir politicians and look for equality in own state. this agitation should take shape and end with conclusion.
.We are completely awed by the stand taken by the Jammuites and trust me, every single sensible Indian Hindu is with you in this fight of yours. Indian Hindus in other places might not come out on the streets ( if need arises this will too happen) but they are doing everything within their limits to support OUR Cause.
You are spot on when you say that this Mufti,Abdullah and ilk hegemony must not be tolerated as they nothing but selfish individuals. More especially the Mufti clan, must packed off pronto to Pakistan, whose paeans they keep on singing.
Bharat Mata Ki Jai....teach the separatists a thorough lesson....
.if jammu violence is not against kashmir or kashmiris then why are they targeting kashmiri vehicles of national highway blocakade ,this shows that this all is against kashmir and kashmiris
Dear Fayaz why are you so so surprised atleast they are not being suicide bombs and kill other people which muslims people have been doing for so many years, - introspect- jai hind
Dear Fayaz why are you so so surprised atleast they are not being suicide bombs and kill other people which muslims people have been doing for so many years, - introspect- jai hind
Dear Fayaz why are you so so surprised atleast they are not being suicide bombs and kill other people which muslims people have been doing for so many years, - introspect- jai hind
.Dogras and Kashmiri Pandits will not take the hegemony of Muslims in Kashmir anymore. Muslims in Kashmir are a race of communalists. When branding people of Jammu as communalists they forget it were the Kashmiri muslims who forced out the Pandits from the valley. Muslims there took out processions after processions yelling "WE WANT KASHMIR WITHOUT PANDIT MEN AND WITH PANDIT WOMEN". This clearly gives the picture of muslim mindset in kashmir. Kashmiri muslims should know this that no one is going to take their sick mentality anymore. Kudos to my brothers and sisters in Jammu.
I think Kashmiri pandits have themselves to blame for their predicament. When Gulab Singh took over Kashmir, both Kashmiris muslims and Gulab Singh wanted them to be converted back to Hinduism, as most of them were forcibally converted to Islam by successive Muslim rulers. It was tooth and nail opposition from Kashmiri Pandits that prevented it from happenning.
There is no doubt on how a Muslim thinks, you have just put it openly.
I have come to believe that Kashmiriyat is a money making scam. Hindus pour taxes for the development of the Muslims and look what they give us in return " WE ARE MUSLIMS FIRST, THEN INDIANS".
They are selfish to the core. No question about it.